Um vdeo se tornou viral nos Estados Unidos mostrando mais um pastor famoso sendo repreendido. Ms passado, seis homens foram presos depois de chamar Joel Osteen de mentiroso. Desta vez, um homem natural da Esccia, alegando ser um profeta enviado por Deus, interrompeu o culto da igreja Grace to You, liderada pelo pastor John MacArthur. Seu nome no foi revelado, mas o vdeo mostra que ele traz uma repreenso pelo fato de McArthur defender cessacionismo. Essa doutrina afirma que os dons do Esprito Santo mencionados na Bblia cessaram com os apstolos. McArthur um grande crtico do movimento pentecostal, tendo escrito livros e pregado continuamente sobre o assunto. Do plpito, o pastor ouviu a repreenso em silncio. Enquanto os seguranas da igreja tiravam o homem da nave, ele continuou a chamar o pregador ao arrependimento. Em seguida, o pastor MacArthur, respondeu com bom humor, assegurando aos congregantes que a equipe de segurana iria lidar com o intruso com gentileza. Tambm ele explicou que, de acordo com 1 Corntios 14, o esprito est sujeito ao profeta. Logo, se aquele homem fosse um profeta verdadeiro, no teria se comportado daquela maneira. Limitou-se a dizer que aquela era uma situao triste e que no era a primeira vez que algo semelhante ocorria. O incidente acabou virando motivo de piada nas redes sociais, mas tocou num ponto crucial da teologia. Vrios telogos pentecostais criticaram a deciso do profeta escocs de se manifestar desta forma, mas insistem que se McArthur estivesse certo as igrejas pentecostais no seriam as que mais crescem no mundo. Tambm lembraram que a maioria das igrejas que negam os dons do Esprito Santo na atualidade abraaram a teologia liberal, que inclui a aceitao da homossexualidade. Ainda que tenha lidado com o profeta que invadiu o culto com humor e pacincia, em seus escritos, MacArthur sempre usou uma forma contundente e at agressiva. Por isso chamado de divisionista, uma vez que ridiculariza e condena seus irmos pentecostais. Com informaes Charisma News [2]Agora pergunto: Porque esto chamando o homem de falso profeta????? S disse a verdade! S porque John MacArthur???? Ele por acaso perfeito? Gosto de algumas pregaes dele sim. Mas isso que houve deveria ser ouvido sim. Espero que estes seguranas no tenham batido no homem. No crer nos dons do E.Santo se o prprio Jesus nos disse que se crermos faramos as mesmas obras do que Ele e at maiores. Jo 14.12Bom, se foi isso que voc foi ministrado "OK" mas os profetas do antigo testamento eram sempre tachados como os perturbadores de alma, aqueles que traziam o peso, o julgo do Senhor e quando Deus mandava eles irem, iam independente de como e onde fosse. No sou a favor do cessacionismo, isso pra mim, tem um nome "heresia". Temos mesmo que se converter a Palavra de Deus e aprender a ler e pedir auxilio do Espirito Santo para interpretar as escrituras.Man Confronts John MacArthurhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRRxmXFe4-0A Scottish-sounding man rebuked John MacArthur in a church meeting, telling him that he had grieved the Holy Spirit of God, that his doctrine of cessation was in error, and that he'd been sent to tell him that.Is it wrong to give out a prophetic message in a church meeting?Does the Bible teach that we are to allow prophets to speak in church (e.g. I Corinthians 14)? Or does it say that we must only have one sermon (the book of Opinions, oops, that's not in the Bible.)------------------------------------------------------------------------I had to give this a thumbs up simply because it is original and on a topic that I had no knowledge of. As well, I enjoyed hearing your input.It would be helpful though if you could provide a link to a video that shows what was said.I found two videos on youtube. One gives a better view and take on what the so called prophet said while the second is extended with some of MacArthurs and the congregations reaction.The one with MacArthurs reaction is entitled: Man rebukes John MacArthur.Also of note is a 2 pt sermon of MacArthur's on youtube entitled: Confronting Error with Condemnation, Not Conversation, Part 1 (John MacArthur)Regarding 2 tim - I'd like to point out that it also does not define scripture as the 66 books of the protestant bible.Mostrar menos 1TheYouthInChrist 4 dias atrsMaybe God did sent the guy to rebuke them. Perhaps he had already tried through other means to approach Mccarthur in regards to this subject and he did not heed the voice of the Lord. So he sent somebody to rebuke him openly. Open rebuke is better than hidden love concealed. If Mccarthur teaches that the holy Spirit is not being poured out today and that he doesn't believe in the gifts of the Spirit. He probably hasn't been filled himself. He needs to be born again. 2Lika1414 1 segundo atrs+TheYouthInChrist Big words! God bless you!Judah Yehuda 4 dias atrs (editado)I am not saying this is right...But this is only my opinion, I hope it makes sense. I do not judge anyone but this verse may help. God Bless everyone!Matt 18:15-1815 " If your brother sins, go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother. 16 "But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so thatBY THE MOUTH OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES EVERY FACT MAY BE CONFIRMED. 17 "If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.Leia mais 2Randal Deese 4 dias atrsThis video was an excellent summary of the issues. Good job! Those who do not believe that the gifts of the Spirit are available today undermine Scriptural authority. They place conjecture, half baked inferences, and personal experience above the very clear written texts. For all practical purposes, they should be considered liberals - after all, they both ignore passages they disagree with... 3Len Hummel 4 dias atrsFirst of all, my wife and I have felt A LOT OF GRIEF IN THE HOLY SPIRIT the past few weeks over the great (and ungodly) divisions over the baptism of the Holy Spirit, tongues, and gifts. I understand John MacArthur (who I respect as a pastor and bible teacher) DENIES the giftings and the infilling of the Holy Spirit. - this is a grave error and I AM CERTAIN the Holy Spirit is much grieved over this situation. - especially being as we are all moving into an accelerated time of Judgment and chastening from the LORD. THE HOLY SPIRIT is truly grieved over the "doctrine" of cessation-ism. especially the almost mocking attitudes of various baptists and others also who speak AGAINST the power & the giftings of the Holy Spirit.Secondly, I do not know whether this man who confronted Dr.MacArthur is an actual prophet but my best guess is that1) he had spoken to Pastor MacArthur on more than one occasion about this issue, and 2) he clearly felt COMPELLED to confront this man publicly because of the seriousness of the divisions over this vital issue. TO DENY the power, anointing, infilling, and the giftings of THE HOLY SPIRIT is a very serious thing in the sight of GOD. PRAY for both of these men. I KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT I KNOW that the Holy Spirit is grieved over all these unnecessary and ungody divisions in the Body of Christ. http://www.christianpost.com/news/prophet-confronts-pastor-john-macarthur-with-message-from-god-that-he-is-in-error-before-congregation-143308/#FsdI5cB3dsWsCtPT.99Here is what I have been known to tell my baptist pastor friends who stop by every now and then and sometimes discuss this issue: "BEWARE of mocking or speaking against THE POWER & REALITY & GIFTINGS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. - it's dangerous to do so: especially if you say, "it is of the devil", or mock Christians who speak in tongues. IT'S VERY dangerous territory to do that kind of thing, even privately, let alone publicly." ... Just saying.Mostrar menos 2Lika1414 1 segundo atrs+Len Hummel You speak the truth! God greatly bless you and your wife!LAUNIE MARTIN 5 dias atrsWhat the screaming man was trying to say is that the gifts of tongues, healings, etc are still in affect today; clearly confused. Scripture is clear (IF read correctly and per dispensational understanding) those gifts were given to those during the transition of "acts" from Peter to Paul. Early is Paul's career he had some gifts, but then something happened, towards the end of Paul's teachings he asked GOD to heal him, and GOD said NO, that his grace was sufficient. The gifts had ceased during the dispensation of the disciples, the ministry of Jesus while he walked the earth....those gifts served a purpose, to convince Israel that their Messiah was indeed amongst them, but they failed to see the truth. After Jesus ascended, there was no longer any need for the gifts, the dispensation had ceased, and the NEW dispensation of grace, the mystery, the church began. SO, the person that lost his mind was clearly in error and confused, most likely a part of some anti-macarthur campaign; satan's children in full force during the end times. We'll be seeing more and more of this as we approach the rapture.Leia maisTheYouthInChrist 4 dias atrsYour statement is not fully supported by scripture. No where in scripture it says that there was a New dispension of grace after the apostles where the gifts of the Spirit ceased. The Holy Spirit is still being poured out today and so are his gifts.In the last days saith God; I will pour out my Spirit upon All flesh, and your Sons and Daughters shall Prophesy. The gift are not just nessesarly to convince the world. The gifts are for the building up of the body of Christ.it says it in Ephesians. If you have not received the baptism of the Holy Ghost and Fire. I would admonish you to seek The Lord and ask him to Fill you. Because without his Spirit in us, we don't belong to him. (Romans 8:9).